Would headers make my car too loud?

Subject: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 3:44 pm

Found a set of Bassani headers really cheap. Like, retardedly cheap. Like there's no way in hell anyone with a brain can pass this deal up.

BUT, I'm worried if I go for it, my car will be stupid loud and more obnoxious than it already is. Now I'm not saying I don't want it to be louder, I just don't think the local (or any) police department does.

My current setup is a Pypes O/R X and Flowmaster 40's. I'd be fine with a change in tone, but a change in volume I'm afraid of.
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'97 GT.
Installed: Pypes O/R X, Flowmaster 40's, 3.73's, Eibach's.
Yet to be installed: Bassani ML's, full 2002 PI swap.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 3:59 pm

Duh John...ask John! lol Wink

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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 4:01 pm

Ask him for me Razz

Also ask him how much he's going to charge me to put 'em on if I buy 'em.

But ask him the volume question first, because if you ask him the install price first he'll say they're going to make my car quieter. bounce

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'97 GT.
Installed: Pypes O/R X, Flowmaster 40's, 3.73's, Eibach's.
Yet to be installed: Bassani ML's, full 2002 PI swap.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 4:25 pm

OK. I sent him an email. You should know better than that lol He'll wanna know every single detail before answering a question Razz

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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 8:44 pm

To install would be $250 for the headers provided there aren't any problems.

Shorty's would give you a more "raw" sound and long-tubes would be louder and raunchy.

If you want, you can come hear my Mustang. It'll sound pretty much like mine. It's at the house if you wanna come check it out.
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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 10:30 pm

headers will make is slightly louder then what you have, and change the tone. note that long tubes require a different mid pipe then what you have. Shorties probably dont.

It wont be ridiculously louder. Are they used? Maybe theyre so cheap cuz the flanges are warped and theyre never gonna seal right. Be careful of that.
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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 10:40 pm

They're mid-length. I assume that means they're somewhere between shorties and longtube. http://www.lmperformance.com/19344/50.html Same thing. Should fit with my current X pipe no?

They're new.
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'97 GT.
Installed: Pypes O/R X, Flowmaster 40's, 3.73's, Eibach's.
Yet to be installed: Bassani ML's, full 2002 PI swap.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 20, 2008 11:10 pm

im pretty sure u need that bassani power x crossover with converters...altho john has exhaust skills, so it may be much cheaper for him to just make what you have work
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07 White GT. FRPP whipple 11 psi intercooled. Apexcone HID's, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce Dual Friction, Dashhawk, FRPP rear end girdle, Steeda gtrac, steeda torque box brace, GI Joe 8 rib kit and tensioner, Pypes O/R X-pipe, msd 2-step, steeda oil separator. 500 whpon 93, around 520 i guess on 112octane. Tuned by Evoltion Performance. Best of 12.48 at 117.

Follow Neil....he's the leader.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 2:36 am

I looked up some stuff on the Power X, it says it bolts up to the OEM stuff. So in theory everything should fit.
http://www.bassani.com/xy/
"Power X Crossovers are used to connect our Headers or OEM Manifolds, to stock or Bassani AFT-CAT exhaust system with true dual mufflers."

Considering anything Bassani makes requires stupid amounts of money (The O/R Power X is like $450!) If it doesn't fit right, I'd rather pay John a less stupid amount of money to make what I have work.
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'97 GT.
Installed: Pypes O/R X, Flowmaster 40's, 3.73's, Eibach's.
Yet to be installed: Bassani ML's, full 2002 PI swap.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 8:38 am

id be curious to see, a guy by me has a set of JBA shorties and it sounds mean as hell.
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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 9:41 am

Yeaaaa...I'd say bring whatcha got over to the shop. He would wanna see it. He could definitely make it work. Gonna be bringin my Mustang over to the shop soon to start doin engine work Razz

I have Pypes headers on it. John picked them up at the E-town swap meet a couple years ago for $50! Car sounds great! Yea, Kev is right about that. You gotta really be careful when you find stuff cheap like that. There may be gasket surface damage, warping, a tiny crack somewhere (that can always be welded), etc.
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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 10:05 am

250 for install aint bad. ive been tempted to buy a set of of the JBA shorties from Brenspeed.
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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 10:30 am

Yea, John is pretty reasonable and honest. Go for it! We'll put them in for you Smile

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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 1:36 pm

not to bring this one up again. but shorties have been proven to add no HP from everything ive read in the mustang magazines. Sad

And if you think $450 is alot from bassani look at the price of S197 stuff. Longtubes from kooks are like $1500 with the crossover
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07 White GT. FRPP whipple 11 psi intercooled. Apexcone HID's, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce Dual Friction, Dashhawk, FRPP rear end girdle, Steeda gtrac, steeda torque box brace, GI Joe 8 rib kit and tensioner, Pypes O/R X-pipe, msd 2-step, steeda oil separator. 500 whpon 93, around 520 i guess on 112octane. Tuned by Evoltion Performance. Best of 12.48 at 117.

Follow Neil....he's the leader.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 1:57 pm

yea i know it doesnt add performance, but hell looks alone is worth it, rather then those nasty looking stock ones. Plus i heard how they sounds and they do give it a very nice tone. I'd def. go for longtubes but i might as well never go to inspection again, even a paid place.
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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 3:05 pm

um, as if inspection will ever even look. come on
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07 White GT. FRPP whipple 11 psi intercooled. Apexcone HID's, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce Dual Friction, Dashhawk, FRPP rear end girdle, Steeda gtrac, steeda torque box brace, GI Joe 8 rib kit and tensioner, Pypes O/R X-pipe, msd 2-step, steeda oil separator. 500 whpon 93, around 520 i guess on 112octane. Tuned by Evoltion Performance. Best of 12.48 at 117.

Follow Neil....he's the leader.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Wed May 21, 2008 3:29 pm

Speaking of gains, these headers aren't really going to do anything but look shiny, right?
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'97 GT.
Installed: Pypes O/R X, Flowmaster 40's, 3.73's, Eibach's.
Yet to be installed: Bassani ML's, full 2002 PI swap.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Mon May 26, 2008 9:44 pm

To update this thread:

I'm mostlikely picking these up next weekend.

Also:
http://www.svt4u2try.com/Mystuff/Mustang_FAQ/exhaust.htm
"These headers are a mix between shortys and long tubes. The only company that manufactures these headers is Bassani. The install time takes around 6 hours. Mid length headers either need Bassani’s matching mid pipe or have a standard mid pipe cut and welded to fit by a muffler shop. Mid length headers produce similar (but not exact) HP and TQ numbers as long tubes while allowing ground clearance with a lowered vehicle."

So I assume they aren't going to fit with the X I have, so my X will have to be cut.
Which means the install would cost more, right Steph?

And so due to that I'll be driving around with the headers in the trunk for a few weeks longer 'till I save up the money for the install tongue

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'97 GT.
Installed: Pypes O/R X, Flowmaster 40's, 3.73's, Eibach's.
Yet to be installed: Bassani ML's, full 2002 PI swap.

Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 27, 2008 4:06 pm

You might see a little gain, but you can't take advantage of them until you do tuning, cams, etc. and stuff like that.

And, yes, the install will cost more if John has to cut n hack.
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Subject: Re: Would headers make my car too loud? Tue May 27, 2008 4:08 pm

4.10's and tuning come after this, I think. But that's a ways off.

It's hard to balance mods, gas, food, and cigs. when I only make $100 a week.
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'97 GT.
Installed: Pypes O/R X, Flowmaster 40's, 3.73's, Eibach's.
Yet to be installed: Bassani ML's, full 2002 PI swap.